I usually take the bus. I don’t have too. I could drive
everywhere that I go. But I don’t. I want to be a good citizen and I’m able
bodied. So, I walk short distances and most of the time I take public transit
when I’m going someplace that’s too far to walk convenient.
The whole thing comes down to this. I don’t want to waste
the time of other members of my society. Why should I take up lots of road
space when I don’t need to? Why should I take up parking spaces when I don’t need
to? I know that whether or not I drive doesn’t make a much of difference to the
cost of road maintenance. But it does make a difference to the amount of time
that it takes other people on the road to get where they are going. If I’m in a
car, I’m in they’re way. If you think for a minute about the amount of ‘in the
way’ going on comparing fifty people on a bus to fifty people in cars, you’ll
immediately see that having busses speeds up traffic for car drivers. In fact, the more busses, the better traffic
will be for car drivers (up to a point which we aren’t anywhere near).
After reading that, I bet
you’re thinking that I’m going to say car drivers should pay for more busses.
I’m not going to say that. I don’t mind if car drivers want to waste their own
time. People should be free to waste
their own time.
You might think I’m going to make a utilitarian argument
about car drivers who cut off busses. I could say that there are more people in
a bus than in a car so the bus should have priority. I don’t really buy that.
Ambulances don’t carry lots of people and I want to keep giving them priority. I
will say that cutting off a huge vehicle like a bus is dangerously stupid. I
haven’t ever been in a bus-car collision. I have been in a car-train collision.
The car ended up upside-down. The train was fine. A bus isn’t as big as a train
but I still bet a car would fair far worse if it was hit by a bus than the bus
would fair.
Anyway, I do have something I want to complain about. Quite
recently, I was on a full bus. I’d guess there were fifty people on the bus.
Traffic was bad that day. Busses were running late. The bus pulled up to a stop
and a passenger waiting for a different bus complained to the bus driver that
her bus was thirty five minutes late. She wanted to know when his bus was going
to arrive. The bus driver didn’t knows so he called the dispatch and everyone
on the bus got to wait for three minutes while he found out that the bus was
indeed late and they didn’t know exactly when it was going to arrive either.
I found this answer from the dispatch to be utterly
unsurprising. I didn’t think the question needed to be asked. It’s the bus
driver’s job to try to help passengers. So, he tried to help her. It’s her job
as a member of society not to be thoughtlessly annoying.
Here’s a plausible story of what happened. Some moronic was
texting while driving in rush hour and had an accident. The accident messed up
traffic and a bus was delayed three quarters of an hour because of said
traffic. And so, the woman at the bus stop figured that the way to deal with
some twit with a phone wasting forty-five minutes of her time was to amplify
that by wasting more time: three minutes times fifty people is two and a half
hours of wasted human time.
I feel like using some pejorative terms to describe the
question asker but instead I’ll just use sarcasm.
Thanks. That made the world a much better place.
While I do agree that the lady asking the question to the bus driver did waste people's time I must point out the fact that you have neglected to consider the perspective of the lady who is waiting for her bus. I agree, it was not helpful for anyone for her to waste the time of the bus driver by asking him when her bus would arrive. However, the circumstances could have been different than what you perceived. Perhaps this lady has a young child coming home from school and she is supposed to be there for the child when they arrive home. Maybe she has promised to meet someone and was running terribly late due to the bus being late. Even in the most likely of circumstances that she is simply running late and still needs to make dinner for her and her husband after a stressful day could be possible. In any of the cases panic would, most likely, be the initial response. When in panic I would assume one would want to try and feel more control in their situation as best they could even though, in reality, they have very little control of the situation. Thus, her reasoning for asking the driver when her bus would arrive. Yes, it was indeed an inconvenience to you and the other passengers on the bus, but it is possible that this lady is dealing with a much greater inconvenience than that.
ReplyDeleteI would give this rant an A- due to the fact that the ideas were clearly conveyed but there were many grammatical and spelling errors. Also, the writing tended to veer off topic.
I am on the fence about this comment. While I agree that the woman might have had “bigger” issues to deal with, what about the individuals already on the bus? What if they have children to meet, or somewhere important to be?
DeleteThree to five minutes might not seem like a lot of time, but when you take public transportation, the minutes really add up. Forgive my perhaps inconsiderate words, but it has just taken me two hours to get home on public transportation on a route that usually takes an hour at most. In my opinion, the woman asking this question was quite inconsiderate, as the bus driver was obviously not going to know the answer. We live in a big city. There are many drivers trying to get around, and inevitably there is going to be traffic and occasionally accidents. If the woman’s bus was thirty-five minutes late, perhaps she should have considered taking another route home.
I agree with your comment that the lady may have had somewhere to be! Although Handcrafted in Alberta is right. Maybe the people on the bus where also in a rush. Maybe they even waited extra time for their bus to arrive and now they have to wait for the bus driver to figure everything out.
DeleteMaybe the other lady needed to take that route home or she would be waiting, or even riding the bus, for an even longer amount of time. Needless to say public transportation can be very unpredictable.
I'm just disagreeing with the grade that you gave this rant. Such mistakes that can easily be avoided such as "They're" is something that shouldn't be happening at a university level.
DeleteA-? I'm with Wild Lemons
DeleteI also agree that the lady asking about her bus delayed the bus you were on by a few minutes. But what is the big deal about 3-5 minutes? We as a society are getting worse and worse every day. People are starting to get so inpatient when it comes to there own needs, people don’t stop to consider the needs of others as much as they should. I agree with @WRDigicon, what if the lady had something very important to get to such as her child coming home from school and no one was going to be there when they walked up to the front door. Or maybe she was on her way to pick her child up from school and no one was going to be there to pick them up.
ReplyDeleteDon’t get me wrong, there are still good people out there who put others before them. But in the situation it seemed that you and possibly some others on the bus were more worried about your precious 3-5 minutes. Put your self into the lady’s shoes, if your stressing about your bus leaving 3-5 minutes late, imagine your bus leaving 45 minutes late? Your lucky that your bus was only running behind 5 minutes, better yet you knew where your bus is. You were sitting comfortable inside the bus. A little patience won’t hurt anyone.
I would give this blog a B+ You get your point through and have some good examples to fight your case. But there are a number of grammar mistakes such as spelling and awkward sentences, it gets confusing to read in some parts.
I also agree that the lady asking about her bus delayed the bus you were on by a few minutes. But what is the big deal about 3-5 minutes? We as a society are getting worse and worse every day. People are starting to get so inpatient when it comes to there own needs, people don’t stop to consider the needs of others as much as they should. I agree with @WRDigicon, what if the lady had something very important to get to such as her child coming home from school and no one was going to be there when they walked up to the front door. Or maybe she was on her way to pick her child up from school and no one was going to be there to pick them up.
ReplyDeleteDon’t get me wrong, there are still good people out there who put others before them. But in the situation it seemed that you and possibly some others on the bus were more worried about your precious 3-5 minutes. Put your self into the lady’s shoes, if your stressing about your bus leaving 3-5 minutes late, imagine your bus leaving 45 minutes late? Your lucky that your bus was only running behind 5 minutes, better yet you knew where your bus is. You were sitting comfortable inside the bus. A little patience won’t hurt anyone.
I would give this blog a B+ You get your point through and have some good examples to fight your case. But there are a number of grammar mistakes such as spelling and awkward sentences, it gets confusing to read in some parts.
I was expecting this 'rant' to be a little more silly but you made some valid points about road travel and time management worth pondering. These points you make however, could be written in a more organized manner making the 'rant' easier for readers to follow. Overall, I would grade this blog entry with a B+ or A- because there were some grammatical errors and the rant didn't unfold with much fluidity.
ReplyDeleteI agree, that the lady asking when her bus would arrive was inconsiderate and insensitive. Anyone in their right mind would know that nothing but more delayed time comes from this kind of question. Just because her bus was delayed doesn't mean she has to go around selfishly making every one else late too. However, she probably just wanted to voice her frustration and the bus driver was the easiest person to take this frustration out on. Just as you, a frustrated bystander, have voiced your frustration through this blog entry.
Though later in the paragraph you gave a good reason to why the lady was asking that question, i disagree with you calling the lady inconsiderate and insensitive as we never truly know in what kind of situation she is under.. though there are people who stop the bus just to unleash their "wrath" at the bus driver for the service transit is providing that day, you never really know if she was asking out of clear desperation because of something that is happening in her life at that very moment.
DeleteI think even if the points are valid it took to long to get to the point. So I feel like time management could have been slightly better. Although I do think that this rant did give something for people to consider or think about. Also, if traffic was really that bad then everyone on that bus was already running late most likely, so what difference would 3 minutes really make? I don't think it was inconsiderate or something to make a big deal about. What people should actually be upset about is texting and driving, because they could actually take peoples lives. A woman asking about her bus is not going to be dangerous or life threatening to anyone.
DeleteI honestly had a very hard time trying to follow what exactly your point was in this rant. Was the point that you don't like seeing individuals waste other peoples time? Or that you do not like having people waste your time? In my opinion, this paper would receive a grade of C. The sentences do not make very much sense, it is hard to keep track of what point you're trying to make and there are numerous grammatical errors. I don't feel like any of the idea's were clearly organized or conveyed in a way that made it easy for the reader to follow along.
ReplyDeleteI am almost sure that the bus driver did not make a conscious decision to waste the bus riders time. When people get irritated or frustrated, they inadvertently respond in a way that might not be appropriate at the time. I highly doubt that the bus driver thought that they had the right to treat someone in such a way that would deliberately hurt them or their feelings.
I also found this piece hard to follow, and (even aside from the grammatical errors, which others have already pointed out), the formatting is inconsistent and hard on the readers' eyes (and brain). The font size doesn't stay the same all the way through!
ReplyDeleteI also disagree that it was the woman's (or anyone's) job "not to be thoughtlessly annoying." People are annoying. I don't mean that in a pessimistic, anti-social way, but because people are all different, with different values and strengths and weaknesses, we're bound to rub each other the wrong way sometimes. It makes us better people in the long run. And if we didn't ever rub each other the wrong way... Well, it would mean we were marshmallows, which don't have weaknesses OR strengths.
I would give this rant a B. Your complaint was clear and interestingly put, but the grammar, spelling, and formatting were full of errors.
I think it is kind of everyone's responsibility, as a society, to not be thoughtlessly annoying. Because those individuals that ignore this rule are typically not well-liked due to their selfishness. However I agree that everyone has flaws, and all the ways that strangers behaviours annoy you, you have traits about yourself that annoy others aswell.
DeleteAs a community we should be trying our best to keep our "annoyingness" to a minimum.
If the lady has ever taken public transit before, she would have known that bus drivers seldom know anything about the other routes and schedules. So it was kind of a silly thing to impose on the driver in the first place.
You are very right that we all have flaws and behaviors that may annoy others, we are all human.
DeleteI wonder if maybe it was the first time for this woman taking public transit, if that was the case she may not have known who to ask.
I think there are far more annoying things that people do on public transit than asking about where and when a bus is coming. Putting your bag on the seat of a packed bus so no one else can sit, yelling at somebody a couple of rows back, very loud music, and clipping your nails!!!
DeleteI think it was fair for the woman to delay your bus by asking the driver if he had any information oh hers. How would she know that the driver wouldn't be able to help her in the end? Perhaps if it was a different situation he may have heard something over the radio and had a quick answer to her question. For someone who seems so high and mighty about bus riders saving the time of others, you seem to lack empathy towards your fellow public transit patrons.
ReplyDeleteI would give this rant B-. You got your point across, and indeed it was a rant; however, there are far too many grammatical errors to be able to ignore them. The rant lacked flow and was very difficult to follow at times.
I think it was inconsiderate of her to ask the bus driver, obviously he wouldn't have an answer. He just drives one bus and one route, he doesn't know what every other bus or bus driver is doing, let-alone whether they happen to be on time.
DeleteShe selfishly just wasted everyone else's time. However, a bus being late is a frustrating thing. Asking the bus driver when her bus would arrive was probably a way for her to vent off steam. Just like the professor wrote this rant to vent off some of his steam.
As a fellow bus rider, I share the sentiment about frustrating individuals that you find on public transportation. It takes long enough to get around on the bus as it is. I too, find it difficult to be empathetic in situations such as this.
ReplyDeleteYou have supplied adequate evidence for your argument. However, there are numerous grammatical errors in this text. I would grade it as a B-.
I agree that it's frustrating to take the bus, and sometimes it takes a little longer to get places, but you need to be empathetic in these situations to make riding the bus bearable. If you aren't taking the bus isn't going to get any easier.
DeleteI see where your frustration comes from, but wouldn't you hope that if you were put into a situation like having a bus be 35 minutes late that people would be understanding and empathetic towards you?
DeleteI found this rant very confusing and almost painful to read. The obvious spelling and grammar issues were very distracting from the main point you were trying to get across. I couldn't help but to mentally edit your words as I read through it.
ReplyDeleteSecondly, as I do agree how frustrating it can be to see people wasting your time without valid excuse, what was the driver to do? Say "I don't know", and close the door? You have to remember the driver has a large audience behind him. Maybe he felt the moral thing to do was to take a few extra moments to help the lady out. Even though his efforts were wasted, at least he tried to offer her reassurance.
Although you may feel you were now placed three minutes behind schedule, public transit drivers very rarely drive the speed limit. They are given stop times to adhere to and therefore drive at a pace to keep themselves regular. If you were put behind schedule by this, it is likely the driver made up for that time wasted by driving a few km/hour faster.
I would give this rant a B-, due to the ridiculous grammar and spelling (even the font is inconsistent), and the lack of clarity on your argument.
I do agree that car drivers are reckless when they speed up to try to get in front of a bus and cut them off, but I do not think that car drivers are always to blame for those close calls. Sometimes buses like to be bullies and push the other 'smaller' cars around, making it unsafe for them. An example would be when buses quickly pull out from the curb after completing a stop, even though there is clearly not enough room for them, and force the cars behind them to slam on their brakes and fit them in. If the cars were not paying attention, there would be the possibility of a collision if they were unable to stop in time once they realized. They are also very impatient and will start honking their horns and inch closer to try to push you forward if you are going too slow, even if there is a lot of traffic. This causes a lot of stress on the car driver and could lead to a collision if they are more focused on the bus behind them and forget to think about the car in front. Therefore, it is not only cars that need to be more courteous, but buses need to be as well in order to prevent possible collisions.
ReplyDeleteI would give this rant a B. You had good supporting points, but the topic did not flow smoothly. There were also some grammatical errors and the different font sizes made it distracting to read.
The possibility of collision when merging into traffic is why other cars on the road are supposed to yield to public transit vehicles. If busses driving downtown in rush hour traffic had to wait for a bus length gap in traffic, they would never get anywhere. I think driving a bus downtown would probably be an extremely stressful and annoying job, you should probably give them a break and just let them in in front of you.
DeleteThe possibility of collision when merging into traffic is why other cars on the road are supposed to yield to public transit vehicles. If busses driving downtown in rush hour traffic had to wait for a bus length gap in traffic, they would never get anywhere. I think driving a bus downtown would probably be an extremely stressful and annoying job, you should probably give them a break and just let them in in front of you.
DeleteThe possibility of collision when merging into traffic is why other cars on the road are supposed to yield to public transit vehicles. If busses driving downtown in rush hour traffic had to wait for a bus length gap in traffic, they would never get anywhere. I think driving a bus downtown would probably be an extremely stressful and annoying job, you should probably give them a break and just let them in in front of you.
DeleteI also ride the bus, and I know how frustrating it can be but waiting for only 3-5 minutes is not a big deal. It could have been a 30-45 minute wait so it being only a couple of minutes seems a little silly to be getting upset about.
ReplyDeleteI would give this rant a B-, you have a lot of information but there isn't a clear argument happening, and the grammar and spelling mistakes are crazy.
What if it was pouring rain or cold? The 3-5 minutes may feel like forever in that case.
DeleteYou should just dress for the weather then. 3-5 minutes with a winter jacket for the cold and if its raining have a umbrella, the 3-5 minutes won't be so bad then. But I do agree if it was more then 10 minutes then it might be a little absurd to have to wait.
DeleteHowever, you neglect to consider that those 3-5 minutes add up. If the bus driver continued to waste 3-5 minutes at every stop because no one complained about it then that could add up to a considerable amount of time wasted for everyone involved.
DeleteWhat if the weather was unpredictable? We do live in Alberta. You never quite know when the snow hits.
DeleteHe was already on the bus, so the 3-5 minutes he waited he was sitting inside the bus, so the weather isn't really a factor in the situation...
DeleteThe pouring rain or cold would not effect anyone on the buss. However, the wasted time (2-5 minutes) are very important because the amount of people on the buss. Although, the time may seem miniscule to the individual but to the population as a whole I think it's highly significant.
Delete@Charlie Angels The weather may not play a factor for him, but there are people at the other stops who may have to wait outside because of this ladies question.
DeleteYou have made some valid points as to why more people should take the bus. However, with all the many reasons to take the bus I don't understand why buses shouldn't have priority over cars. If there are more people per square inch of road space using the bus, then it is only logical that buses should have priority. If they have priority, it will allow more people to arrive at their destination on time. In addition it is also a safety hazard, as you have already pointed out. Although, I think it is also important to point out that if the bus gets into an accident a car it will be far more devastating than a regular collision. This is because of the larger number of people that buses carry, thus increase the probability that the number of injured in the case of an accident.
ReplyDeleteThis rant was satisfactory. It got the point across and was thought provoking at times. However, the grammar and awkward sentence structure made if feel "choppy" at times.
Overall I feel it was in the B+ to A- range.
This rant would most definitely get a C or lower from me. There are some spelling and grammar errors in this rant that are quite obvious. Taking that into consideration, some of these simple errors should not be happening at a university level. Also this rant was kind of annoying to read because it may have been about the same topic but it was going all over the place.
ReplyDeleteIt`s quite rude to call the woman who was asking for help annoying. Maybe she didn't have a phone and your bus driver was the only one available to help. Besides, you shouldn't be taking the bus if you don't like waiting for three minutes. Everyone knows there's the possibility of delays with public transit that's just common knowledge.
I agree with the majority of this post, buses should be given a greater priority on the road as they allow for more people to travel in a condensed space. The woman that complained about the bus being late was being very self-contradicting because she just wasted more of her own time, as well as everyone else who was on that bus. I know that in my own personal experience, buses and other forms of public transit have been nothing but a pain to deal with. I regularly have to take the bus and to get to my destination on time, leave over an hour early. Mostly to ensure that I either, don't miss an early bus or make the proper connections on time.
ReplyDeleteThe biggest problem with reading this post was how much you jumped around while writing it. Your thoughts seem to be all over the place which makes it quite difficult to follow at times. I would give this post a B, because even though there were many errors in grammar, your point was still communicated
I agree that buses should be given priority, but at the same time it isn't always the car drivers fault. There's a lot of incidents that occur because the driver of the bus decides to shove a huge bus where it doesn't fit.
DeleteIt is the responsibility of everyone on the road to make it safer for everyone so the bus driver can't be all to blame for that.
DeleteI used to take the bus myself and I do get the frustration, but seriously how can 3 minutes of your time make you so mad? People waste their time everyday by watching TV or going on social media and that is okay, but asking a simple question all of the sudden considered to be rude and a big deal. Three to five minutes of anyone's time won't make a huge different in their life.
Delete3 minutes when you're in a rush to get somewhere important can make all the difference, wasting time in other aspects of life is definitely not a big deal.
DeleteWasting your own time by watching TV or something is a lot different than wasting other peoples time.
DeleteAfter I read your blog post, I couldn't help but feel empathetic towards the woman. I want to be understanding toward both sides. You may have been frustrated that the woman asked the driver and took a few moments of everyone’s time. A few minutes can feel like forever when you are in a rush. The woman must have also felt like she had been waiting forever, as her bus was 35 minutes late and she still did not know where it was. If I was in your situation, I would have tried not to be so frustrated with the situation and think about why this lady may have asked the driver. Was she new in town and had never taken public transit before? Had her car just broke down and she was upset and not able to think calmly? Did she need to get to her child? Thinking of worse options, maybe someone was at the hospital and she needed to get to them, or even a funeral...35 minutes would really feel like a really long time if you were running late for something extremely important...we never really know what a stranger is going through so we should always try to be a little more understanding. I would hope someone would be understanding and helpful to me if I was that woman. I do appreciate the fact that you did not state that you said anything to her about it. It would be a worse situation for her if someone would have voiced their frustrations directly to her.
ReplyDeleteI would give your post a B+ as your "rant" was good and had many points. It was a little hard to understand what the rant was about as it had jumped around from drivers cutting buses off, to the story about the lady asking the driver. The font not staying steady was also slightly distracting.
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ReplyDeleteFirst of all, I love the sarcasm used at the end of this rant. Im not usually a person who rides the bus. Mostly this is due to the fact I am close enough to walk to a lot of the places I travel. Although, if I do need to travel a further distance, I drive.I have some sympathy towards her for wanting to know exactly when her bus would arrive. What if she needed to pick up her kids from school or something of the sort that she needed to be on time?
ReplyDeleteI can agree that the bus is a way to save everyone on the roads time. Maybe I need to consider taking the bus more often when I am travelling further into Calgary or even other places in Alberta. Your accident scenario is quite believable because whenever it is a time of heavy traffic in Calgary there always seems to be an accident somewhere along the way. People should not text and drive that way if someone is in a rush but wants to get there in a safe matter, while still being on time, its not some silly person slowing them down.
I would give this post is B, mostly because it jumped around quite a lot. This made it a little difficult to completely follow. If it was a little easier to follow I feel like it would be easier to make a sold rant that would make you aggravated just writing it! Plus the grammatical errors happened a little to much.
Before I grade this polemic, I just want to say the things I liked about it. The first paragraphs made sense and your position on why you take the bus was a good point. Also, the part about giving buses top priority was also a good point as well. Your rant was straight forward and was not convoluted. Best part was your story on why the bus was late. Your sarcasm was awesome.
ReplyDeleteThe one thing I didn't like was the flow of the post; it was everywhere. You talk about why taking the bus is good and should have top priority. But then you go on with your rant. I really didn't see no connection with old lady taking time and buses being top priority. Overall, I would grade this post a B-, maybe just sticking to the rant would be just enough.
You mentioned how taking a bus makes you a good citizen. In my opinion, the buses are not that great either. Tickets are not cheap, they are overcrowded during the rush hours, they are smelly and of course, they pollute the planet Earth. So if you are so concerned about being a good citizen, why not just bike everywhere. Why should you take up lots of road space when you don't need to, you ask? Well why should you pay for the bus when you don't need to? Just hop on your bicycle and paddle away.
ReplyDeleteI'd give this article a B. You do succeed at ranting, but there are some spelling and grammar mistakes.
Buses are not that great, but a definitely a better alternative to driving a car by yourself everywhere. It's just not practical for most people to travel by bike everywhere they have to go in a day.
DeleteThere are a couple points that you brought up that concern me. Firstly a bicycling alternative to transportation is a bit unrealistic in our city with the optimal weather to do so is at most maybe 5 months of the year. Yes you can ride your bicycle during those times, but what if you need to get somewhere further away? A bicycle is just not efficient enough for the distance you cover in the amount of time it takes and the work you have to put into it. I live in the South of Calgary and would not consider riding my bike if I had to reach Mount Royal. My second concern was bringing up how buses pollute and being a good citizen. They are not intrinsically linked. Most everyone has been in a car, bus or even train, and all of those pollute. So are we all bad citizens for using something that pollutes our air? No we're not. Maybe if he was arguing about how the environmental effects are far less than those of a car and that buses were the cleanest form of transportation, then yes your points are valid. Unfortunately that wasn't the subject
DeleteTo some extent I do agree that riding bikes would be a great way to show that you are a good citizen. However, is some situations a bikes would not be a good choice. Picture a an old lady who doesn't have a car or is unable to ride a bike. Her only choice is to ride a bus. How about a family without a car? The list can go one. The main point is riding bikes are good for the environment and more economical. But it depends on the situation of the person.
DeleteAll three of you have great points and I do agree with them. I was trying to sarcastically answer on Ctharo's "Why should I do this when I don't need to" questions, hence the biking everywhere idea. There are countless things in life that we don't need to do, but we still do them.
DeleteTo Blue Suns - Of course that using something that pollutes the air doesn't make you a bad citizen, everyone would be bad if you look at it like that. But how does taking a bus make you a good citizen though?
While I agree that the woman asking your bus driver about when her bus was going to arrive is a bit irritating, how is your bus driver supposed to know the answer to that question, I think you should have put yourself in her shoes. Her bus was thirty five minutes late, she delayed you for only 5 minutes max.
ReplyDeleteI did find this post a tad hard to follow as you went off on a few unrelated tangents but you were successful at ranting and did eventually make a point. There were also a couple of minor grammar and spelling errors so I give this post a B-.
side bar- were you actually in a car-train collision?
I believe that the woman had the right to ask questions because its a free country! but at the same time she should've been considerate to others, she probably wasn't the only one that was waiting for a very late bus. During rush hour it's always frustrating, everyone just wants to go home and see their family or relax. The woman probably should've just been a bit more patient because patience is a virtue! I'll criticize the point that you couldn't wait either, you are taking public transit and delays are sure to happen at some point, things won't always be smooth sailing and point A to point B. I believe if something happens that delays your day or anything you should remain calm and eventually you will reach the destination, but that's only a opinion I know patience can sometimes reach a boiling point when you can't wait any longer. I'll rate this article B+
ReplyDeleteI do not agree with you calling the woman who stopped the bus in order to ask the question annoying, while there is people who stop the bus just to show how mad they are at the service the transit is providing on a certain day, you never truly know in what kind of situation people asking that question are.
ReplyDeleteI would give this rant a C+, there are various spelling mistakes, and it was a difficult "rant" to follow as there were a lot of points that I considered necessary, plus your formatting is a little off, as some paragraphs have a smaller font size then others.
There are better avenues she could have explored in order to answer her question. She could have called the information line for public transportation to see if they could help her, or realize she was being an inconvenience when the bus driver went out of their way to call for her. Asking a bus driver who is working a different route will not know when her bus is going to get there. Furthermore, asking him/her and taking up the riders' time, will not make her bus get there any quicker. I do agree with your claim that it was difficult to follow and there were too many points.
DeleteWhat if this lady didn't have a phone, or access to a phone? This bus driver may have been her only resource.
DeleteI agree with P. Floyd about there being better ways the woman could have approached the situation with her annoyance about the bus being late. It doesn't matter what sort of situation the woman may have been in outside of the bus, she still should be more cautious of wasting any more of everyone else's time, especially if the bus is as late as the original poster has stated.
DeleteThen she should have used a carrier pigeon or whatever it is that people in 2013 use for communication if they don't have a phone
DeleteWhat people forget to take into consideration is that from a very young age we are taught to trust people in uniform, whether it is a police officer, security guard and so forth. We are taught to ask them if we need help and that most of the time they will help us.
DeleteAlso, as a bus driver, it is assumed that your job title includes answering questions pertaining to the bus routes and times. It's one of the functions involved in the job.
Some people don't have phones for a reason though, and personally I don't find myself tied to my phone constantly, if you run out of battery you're kind of hooped. Not only that, if you did a transfer and you're not sure about where you are or what time the buses typically run, so there are always problems with assuming technology is always an option.
DeleteAt the same time, 'the needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few'. This lady may have had to pick up a child or attend an important meeting, but the other forty people had other commitments that they had to attend to as well. Therefore, she should not have wasted other peoples time as she was wasting much more time than just her own by asking the question.
DeleteWhile I agree with your stance on the "thoughtlessly annoying" woman's inability to understand the consequences of asking a question, your conclusion was weak and left unable to empathize with the ranter. The lady should have realized that by asking a question that was very likely to receive an unhelpful answer, she was wasting everyone's time. However, by converting the time she wasted into "human time", I believe the significance of the time wasted is lost. If instead you had explained how each minute adds up when dealing with public transportation, especially in the situation you were experiencing that day, I may have better understood your frustration. By comparing it to a collective perception of everyone on the bus, instead of the perception of one individual, three minutes now seems insignificant to the "2 and a half hours". I felt as though it pulled the reader away from your point; that her actions directly affected you, and did not finish as strongly as a rant should. You've gotta get angry, you've gotta get mean!
ReplyDeleteI would give this paper a B. The content was satisfactory, there were some spelling and grammatical errors and a few instances of informal sentence structure, but that is to be expected in a blog.
I disagree with the way you're describing time, as if it's something each of us owns and has a right to. Actually, no one has a "right" to time. That's a very Western concept, and I think it leads to a really slippery slope, where your own time gets more and more important, and other people become less and less important. We write people off as "thoughtlessly annoying" after seeing them for 3-5 minutes... Because those 3-5 minutes are more important than the woman.
DeleteGetting angry over something this insignificant would be a waste of time. The way I like to look at it is that everything happens for a reason. If I was in this situation, I'd see the bus being late as a good thing. Maybe, if the bus wasn't late, it would end up colliding with a truck few kilometers down the road, resulting in few deaths and many injuries. See, now the bus being late doesn't sound that bad, does it? This way of thinking helps me keep my "cool" at least.
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DeleteI don't believe each of us has a "right to time" in that our time is more important than anyone else's. We do however, each have our own perception of time and I thought the ranter should have focused more on that to give us a better idea of their frustration. For the record, I agree that placing the importance of one's own time above the time of others is a negative characteristic. I wouldn't have cared if someone wasted 3 minutes of my time while I was on a bus and understand why someone would ask a bus driver for assistance.
DeleteI'm not one of the better people to be grading another's opinion, especially when I don't fully agree with it. To me, I don't care if I waste someone else's time when I drive, you're time is not mine, not mine to worry about. To me standing around waiting for a bus, sitting around waiting for the bus to be go all of it's stops before mine, and then having to transfer to a different bus or even onto a train if I have to go somewhere that bus won't take me. That to me is a much larger waste of time, though I'm saltier about it than you are because I have never thought highly of our or any public transit. Though to grade it I'd give it a C+. You explained and for the most part well iterated what it was about. Though ending with an example that goes against what you arguing for does not help your cause out.
ReplyDeletei know we are supposed to argue, but i think you make a valid point, especially about the transit in this town.
DeleteI think the lady was fine to ask the question, to consider it could have been longer than the three min. So look at the positives!
ReplyDeleteOverall i would give this rant a B+ i mean its a rant, if your passionate about your rant then you may make mistakes, not like there is a good spell-check on this thing anyways.
its not even really about the time spent for the bus driver to give her the information, that made no change to the situation, it is the fact that she was complaining to the wrong person. She could have easily found a number to call herself and not waste everybody's time who were waiting on the bus.
DeleteIt said she was asking when her buss was coming, not complaining. Maybe she was asking for multiple people when their buss was coming, then it doesn't come down to one person wasting time. Maybe there was 51 people at the buss stop needing to find out when their buss was coming.
DeleteIt took you too long to get your point across and I got bored just waiting for the rant to start. The errors like "they're" when their should have been used would make me mark you lower. I would grade you a 70%. I think if the lady had somewhere urgent to be that she had the right to ask. Three minutes really isn't that much time to waste. I would agree though that a bus would fit more people and would cause less people to drive in their own cars. The time it takes waiting for buses, as you explained here, and having to stop at other places that you are not intending to go, is rather annoying. This is why most people prefer to drive. Plus there is the idea of privacy, and space.
ReplyDeleteI am on the fence with this topic. Having been in the shoes of the lady who had been waiting forever for a bus to come, I know how frustrating it can be, especially in -30 weather, and have asked other drivers if they have heard anything. The bus drivers all have their radios, and hear updates and whatnot throughout the day, and may have some insight into what the hold up is.
ReplyDeleteI would give this a C, there were many spelling/grammar mistakes that I would not get away with in any of my classes.
I definitely found that the font change annoyed me, there were a few other things that I thought seemed pointless. The sentence structure and content was a little questionable also. Generally, however I do like the blog post but it's really broad, and personally I want to hear opinions on one thing specifically not a tangent, I mean I feel like although it was a rant, it was also more of a tangent going on other tangents. I'd probably give at least mid 70's for this blog.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with you in the sense of thinking that this is broad, I feel as if this blog was set in a specific direction starting about a quarter of the way through and followed a series of thoughts all the way to the end.
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ReplyDeleteI would have to agree with the countless bloggers above me criticizing your grammar and sentence structure. Your argument was generally unclear and all over the place at times. You didn't reach your point until close to the end of your entry, which is a bit ineffective if you want to argue about something. All that being said, I'm neutral about your opinion on this topic. Part of me wants to empathize with the woman. It's very possible that she was late for a very important event. However, I don't think she needed to air her grievances to the bus driver. If she had a complaint, she could have made a simple phone call instead of holding up traffic. Situations like these can be very frustrating. Overall, I would give this entry a B.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with you in the sense that the lady really didn't need to ask the question to the bus driver. Most of the bus drivers don't know exactly where the other buses are, they are more concerned about the routes that they are driving. Basically she was just complaining to the wrong person and wasted everybody else's time in doing so. If she really wanted to get a straight answer she should have just called the people herself.
ReplyDeleteAs for the grade for the blog, I would give this a C+. The flow of the paper seemed to be a little off, i had to stop and re-read a couple of sentences to make sense of what you were trying to say. There were also a few grammatical and spelling errors within the rant. However, the points you made were good and thought out from my perspective, the only thing i would say is that you should try to get to the point of the rant a little quicker.
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ReplyDeleteI feel as if your comment regarding a bus driver being REQUIRED to help passengers is a serious misunderstanding. I don't feel as if this is true, it is not a driver's responsibility to help passengers as it's not in the job description for them to help it's just a matter of whether or not they feel the need to be a good person. For the blog itself I would give it a C+ due to the fact that, I don't feel that your thoughts were organized in a fluent way and I had to stop and re read multiple times.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with your comment about it not being a driver's responsibly to help passengers. Drivers are required to have customer service experience, in fact a minimum of 2 years is required for on transit system, namely Calgary Transit. (http://www.calgarytransit.com/career/transit-requirements.html) One of the main parts of customer service in a job is helping people.
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ReplyDeleteThe bus was not going anywhere anyways, 2 minutes is not a big deal. That 2 minutes that the driver took to listen to the lady and try and find out what was happening, may have helped her to feel better. It may also have helped her to decide to change her plans and not wait for the bus.
ReplyDeleteI would give it a B. There were spelling mistakes, but I could understand the story.